[feedback] [dev] Crafter name

[Xavier Antoviaque]

Hello,

Feel free to comment on this feature :

Currently, the name of person who crafted an item does not appear anywhere on that item. We will change this so that the crafter's name will appear in the details window of a crafted item.

Any thoughts, positive or negative feedback are welcome !

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Xavier
(aka the feedback poster bot :-) )

[helbreat]

LOL is this a joke?

it was just noticed as an undocumented change in the last patch now your posting this as a planned change and asking for feedback on it? it should be optional wether you have your name on it thats all not keep taking it away then putting it back as new content =/

[rushin]

quite liked mmatto's idea about crafter name being a rite, then people can choose one way or the other.

[helbreat]

id just like an option in the options menu with a check box wether to display name on crafted items or not making it a rite is pointless because then it becomes either a karavan or a kami skill as you cant do a rite without gaining fame in atleast one of the factions or some tribe =/

[sehracii]

But it also should be a stanza gained from the rite, so the crafter can decide on an item by item basis whether it should be marked or not.

[mmatto]

Can we have crafter name optionally shown.

There could be a signature stanza (from trainers or rite) that could be added as an option to craft action. Signed armors show crafter name and unsigned not. Signature should not use up maximum boost bonus if it is implemented as a stanza because that would make signing pointless as signed stuff would be worse than normal.

There are people who feel strongly either way and they have good arguments for their views. Best would be having it optionally.

[danadita]

quite liked mmatto's idea about crafter name being a rite, then people can choose one way or the other.Put me down for a "metoo", also. And maybe your guild symbol show up in the details?

[iphdrunk]

Make it optional, a brick that can be trained or gained trhough a rite and that can be set up in your action stanza as a 0-cost option


Anissa

[genod]

Yup. An option for the individual crafter to put a name stamp or not would be ideal. If I had to choose one or the other though, I'd have to vote for including the name on all items.

(Heh. Look at all the crafters posting at once :D)

[Xavier Antoviaque]

it was just noticed as an undocumented change in the last patch now your posting this as a planned change and asking for feedback on it? it should be optional wether you have your name on it thats all not keep taking it away then putting it back as new content =/

As this is the first time we are publishing the 'In development' section, we have chosen to create a feedback thread for all the items on the list - to let *you* choose on what you want to comment. Some items are really small bugfixes, so it wouldn't hurt to not create a feedback thread for these items. Tell us what you prefer!

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Xavier.

[sehracii]

As this is the first time we are publishing the 'In development' section, we have chosen to create a feedback thread for all the items on the list - to let *you* choose on what you want to comment. Some items are really small bugfixes, so it wouldn't hurt to not create a feedback thread for these items. Tell us what you prefer!

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Xavier.


I say the more we get to comment on the better!

These are great threads to have.

[micrix]

Hello,

Feel free to comment on this feature :



Any thoughts, positive or negative feedback is welcome !

--
Xavier
(aka the feedback poster bot :-) )
display the name default or insert a checkbox into the crafting window. Please no rite for such.

[basicart]

I liked being able to see who i was buying from it stoped me from buying from the anoying people that like to upmake other crafters prices

[keoni]

*Jumps on bandwagon*...

Me likey the idea of making the crafter signature an option that can be turned on and off. I don't think it should be a rite, because I can understand how folks would be annoyed having to expend effort to be able to accomplish this.

[helbreat]

*Jumps on bandwagon*...

Me likey the idea of making the crafter signature an option that can be turned on and off. I don't think it should be a rite, because I can understand how folks would be annoyed having to expend effort to be able to accomplish this.


especially if you inadvertantly gain some oposing factions fame while doing it :D

[totnkopf]

I liked being able to see who i was buying from it stoped me from buying from the anoying people that like to upmake other crafters prices
Gotta agree with Basic. I liked it when it just showed the crafters name in the info window.
Also have to go with a No on making optional naming a rite. Have it available from the trainers if we must have it.

[larwood]

I say to make leaving your sig inside a crafted item needs to be a learned skill or rite.

[grimjim]

Give us a groovy little 'Marque' like the guild symbol attached to the items.

That can be a mark of quality without giving away your name.

[vinnyq]

Optional as a checkbox or skill stanza (0 credits please!), I don't care either way.

Might be nice if you can also write in a short phrases for personal message with limited number of characters, such as "to my lovely wife", but this might be asking too much.

[roninpvp]

But it also should be a stanza gained from the rite, so the crafter can decide on an item by item basis whether it should be marked or not.

I like this idea a lot :D

[kurita]

IMO it should be an stanza with 0 cost to train and 0 cost to put into craftingplan,
that way you can choose if u want to have your name on crafted items or not.

it would be something else if naming a craft would give you bonus on the item, like if
you have more than 2-3 items from the same crafter you get a cumulative %bonus based
on the q of the craftingplan. then it should be ether a highcost in SP(like the powerstanzas Warcry, MPA, etc.)
or a hard to do rite from Kami and Karavan(so that those who donīt want to gain fame from the wrong faction can take the one they need ;))

[amitst]

I am so confused.


Do these devs think it is a feature to have the name there or a feature to not have the name there?

[mmatto]

Do these devs think it is a feature to have the name there or a feature to not have the name there?

When there was name, many people voiced their opinion that it should not be shown.

Now this suggestion is implemented in game and now other people complain that name should be appearing.

:)

[helbreat]

When there was name, many people voiced their opinion that it should not be shown.

Now this suggestion is implemented in game and now other people complain that name should be appearing.

:)


ya but when it was added was 5 months ago if it was thought to be a bad idea why did it take 5 months to take it out? and will it be 5 months again before we get the option to say yes or no? :x its ok us giving this feedback to you but will we get some feedback ourselfs after to say what decision was made and how long itll take for these changes to take effect? and if its "Soon" (TM) can i start a box and collect 1 euro from you everytime we get told that as an answer? :P

[petej]

Id like to see the Sellers name optional on items upto base price+100% and mandatory on items costing more

No need for the crafters name at all the buck stops with who ever sells the item

[helbreat]

Id like to see the Sellers name optional on items upto base price+100% and mandatory on items costing more


LoL i sell my items well over 100% you have to or your just losing money :x

my prices i set by 1k per q for choice +40k for exc, supreme usually gets auctioned on the forum ;P

[mmatto]

Petej did not add reasoning for his good suggestion. I can try mine.

Those who are selling <100% are doing some kind of comminity service by providing affordable jewelry for masses. However, if they sell that jewelry they will pronounce their crafting skills and that will result in tell hell as people know that crafter sells at affordable prices.

This was not issue earlier as crafter's name was visible on item but now it is hidden. Hiding crafter's name does not help if his name is shown as seller. This can be circumvented by using other craracters but that is awkward.

When I think further use cases, maybe there should be checkbox to hide seller's name altogether. That would allow fully anonymous sales but on the other hand reseller markets too. Adding seller's name to products sold above 100% would hurt resellers.

[caitiff]

I think it should be an option as well when crafting. Have it w/ name by default but a checkbox or stanza that you add that will allow you to craft the item w/o the name. If you can't do this and it has to be either or I would say include the crafters name.

[alibasil]

I have spoken to a couple of people, CSR and players about an idea of mine.

I quite like the idea of having a specific item that only your char can make (be it sword shield armour piece or amp). I think the title of this specific item (if it were a sword) would then be called "<person name> sword".

I got the idea from rewatching the kill bill films. The hatori hanzo sword was something in itself that was priceless and legendary. Having one specific item that the crafter can add a stanza to make the item title. This way the item can become famous and so can the crafter, like hatori hanzo.

I was also thinking about this in that, maybe the name should only apply if the item produced was made by a specific mixture of materials, ie specific stats on the item would mean it deserves the title. Also the race of the item would be specific.

Me personally, if i had the option to do this... Id make the "Alibooma Amp" :D

[helbreat]

diggin burning stavon sword of damage hasnt the same ring to it as the hanzo sword :x or the cutting power

but i do agree with the point tho it would be nice to get a race specific weapon of a new design with a name that could go with any players name gained from a rite mission....

i was a bit dissapointed that the rite mission plans were so low grade look, if they were high q generic items with good look to them it'd make more people want to get the plans from the rite missions ;)

[alibasil]

I was thinking more along the lines of you create the item name yourself. So for my amp (that i make from specific mats in Zorai for example, with specific stats) i would call the "Alibooma Amplifier".

I spoke with a good friend (IG) of mine, Scarazi, about this. She agreed, and makes swords and has a specific sword she would love to call the "Scarazi sword".

[bobturke]

At least put crafter name back please.

[iwojimmy]

I want to know who made what Im buying, and if it is someone different to the person selling it, and I want to be able to check who made the gear I'm using when it needs replacing... this is how it was working... all this information needs to remain.
However if you are talking about letting the crafter add text to their creations - as a secondary name for the item, then I'm all in favour of that :)

Probably as a trainer skill brick, unless you can come up a completely neutral rite source.
I dont take missions from karavan OR kami, too many friends on both sides :)



/edit.. btw, i really like the idea of hurting resellers...

[iphdrunk]

"Scarazi sword".

As good as an Hittari Hanzo one!

[scarazi]

As good as an Hittari Hanzo one!

better :P
...

[archerke]

he wont be the only one craftin it though ;)

i say put an option wether u choose if ur name is added or not

[systemv]

I'm not really a crafter. I have my mace at a pretty decent level but noone buys them anyway :)

I really like having the crafter's name on the item. Call me a selfish consumer if you want but knowing who can craft what makes finding the rarer items easier. I never /tell a crafter I find this way, it's usually if I bump into them or send them a mail that I'll request a custom order. Is that really discouraging for people? I guess haven't been too sensitive about it...

I think the names on items help develop a community - just my 2 cents.

[borg9]

I like names on items - a feature to set the crafter name to 'anonymous' would be nice, but it would is 'a nice to have' feature and in my opinion should only be considered if the current code base and client software is already capable of supporting such a feature, there is much more that could be added/implemented prior to this that would have a greater impact on gameplay.

[vutescu]

Named items would be realy nice.

AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO DROP ITEMS AND PICK THEM UP :p

[ozric]

I was one of the very few people complaining about the sudden compulsory introduction of crafters names on items when it happened mid November, tho most people agreed with me then that it should be optional for the crafter to display this information, if possible. I am still of that opinion.

[geezas]

* it should be optional
* it should not be difficult to get
* a nice low level rite (in all 4 capital cities) would be cool (content) and/or a option to buy/get the skill if you are at a certain level of craft?

[khyle]

Has it been considered to make the signature an additional item that can be added - like adding ammo to a weapon - so you could craft your item, and if you like the outcome, i.e. it's not degraded etc., you can sign it -- if you have learned how to create a signature?

Creating a signature might or might not involve additional raw materials, but I strongly feel that it's something not everyone could do -- a qualified signature also reflects the crafter's renown, nothing a craftsman's apprentice could easily accomplish;
maybe there could be several quality levels for a signature, like:
- sign with your name only
- add a symbol
- add a guild symbol, or a customer-specific signature/symbol