Herding - A Possible Way To Control Pets For Combat

[zangan]

Ive been thinking about this for a while. I don't know if anyone else has tried this but I think I might have found a way to control monsters. So please, save all critisism, mockings, and scorn.

Here we go!


Ok, what if you used a combination of fear, taunt, sleep, and speed up power?

Step one - find an agro mob and use taunt to lure one enemy out

Step two - you will probably need a friend to help you with this part, use a combination of fears between the two (or more) to work the monster towards your destination

Step three - once your creature arrives at the entended spot hit it with sleep, i suggest all people helping do this to ensure it stays put

Step four - RUN!! use speed up power to get the heck out of there


Outcome - if this works the monster should wake up and attack the nearest enemy

Ok, Ive never actually tried this or even heard of it, this would mostly be effective in factoin pvps i would think, where you could bring herds of high level mobs to drop off on the other faction.


I hope this works, if anyone tries it, tell me the results or what you think of this page.


Good luck!!

[fixcrash]

there is a much easier way to get mobs onto the other faction

simply run past the agro mobs and run towards the opposition faction.
If the distance is small enough u can just run past
if the distance is greater and you would lose agro by running, you can hav a low power affliction enchant on your weapon and just use that every so often to keep agro.

this works best by using large numbers of agro mobs, and by using speed up just before getting to the opposite faction with maybe a protection aura so you dont get nuked to bits.

[nillian]

Oooh aggro-dragging. This thread will be popular!

[xolghost]

Hate to nuke your idea - although I'm quite sure that it's meant ironically anyway...

Just two thoughts:
Aren't feared mobs always escaping into a single direction? Eastwards if possible, or some like that?
Since training mobs against others is illegal (at least it is very clearly on Leanon), rephrasing the act to "pet control for combat" won't be changing the deed... I guess we'll have to wait for the long ago thought-about taming skilltree to come...

[nillian]

...Since training mobs against others is illegal (at least it is very clearly on Leanon)...

I believe it has been stated (at least for Arispotle) that aggro-training is a perfectly viable tactic. I may be wrong.

[blaah]

I believe it has been stated (at least for Arispotle) that aggro-training is a perfectly viable tactic. I may be wrong.
so... i can drag bunch of stuff to other players just because i dont like them ?

joy

[xolghost]

Here's (http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24518) Souls' thread concerning OP fight tactics and their legality. (I confess that I've not followed Arispotle's all way through, I'd be very surprised if the official statements at the end were applying double standards, though. <-- I just corrected this *g*)

Edit: [...]If you decide that it is fun to drag a whole bunch of mobs onto one side during an OP battle, creating an unfair environment, again you will be stopped.[...]and...[...]While neutrals should not aggro drag to OP battles, I see no justification for it to be used in an OP battle, so I think a blanket policy on it is best to avoid our usual posse of loophole exploiters.[...]At least now I did follow that thread's discussion ;)

[nillian]

Yeah. But I meant more in terms of outpost battles, PvP events, that sort of thing. I suppose it could be filed under harassment to just do it during normal play. That argument has been had on these forums a bunch of times though, I'm not going to repeat any more :P

[nillian]

Here's (http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24518) Souls' thread concerning OP fight tactics and their legality. I confess that I've not followed Arispotle's all way through, I'd be very surprised if the official statements at the end were applying double standards, though.

Edit: and...

I stand corrected. Apologies for the wrong information. By the sounds of it, policy changed there, I'm sure at the time of the old lands the GMs weren't against it, but clearly now, they are.

[totnkopf]

Yeah. But I meant more in terms of outpost battles, PvP events, that sort of thing. I suppose it could be filed under harassment to just do it during normal play. That argument has been had on these forums a bunch of times though, I'm not going to repeat any more :P
In the old lands it was considered a valid tactic and used to be used in OP fights.
Souls stopped the aggro dragging with that letter, however, Fearing a mob onto the opposing team is still allowed. thats not an aggro drag and takes some skill to do (if it doesn't aggro them, then it comes back onto the caster). Just have to hope that the enemy is standing to the East for it to work.

[zangan]

Hmm, well thanks for the feedback, it was mainly a random idea I wanted to bounce off other players. I didn't realize all monsters fear to the east. =/

But if they are, I'd think it would be safer than running through an agry mob of homins who want you dead.

Thanks =)