Prime Roots climate

[katriell]

Would the temperature be cool or warm in the Prime Roots? As one descends toward the inner layers of Atys, does it become colder or warmer?

We only have this (http://www.ryzom.com/game-lore/atys/the-ecosystem/ryzom_images/gamelore/atys/lore_atys_eco_visu.jpg) as a reference for the composition of Atys's layers.

One observation that might have relevance: there is never any visible ice formation in the Prime Roots, even though there's moisture in the forms of sap and water.

[riveit]

My first thought would be warmer as you go down. Unless the surface is receiving a large amount of radiation, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[acridiel]

Usually it would get warmer because Wood is an excellent conductor and storage for heat. So heat from above would be transfered down to at least the first lair of prime roots and stored.
Espacially if some sort of rotting process would take place further down, wich generates heat by itself.
Coupled with all the moisture, animal life and rotting feces of said animals, making it in fact a huuuge, quite smelly Sauna. :D



Acridiel

[riveit]

Usually it would get warmer because Wood is an excellent conductor and storage for heat.

Actually, wood is an excellent thermal insulator, meaning it does not conduct heat. Wood also has rather low heat capacity. Usually planets are hottest at the core from heat leftover from formation or radioactivity, I think.

[calel]

Espacially if some sort of rotting process would take place further down, wich generates heat by itself.
Coupled with all the moisture, animal life and rotting feces of said animals, making it in fact a huuuge, quite smelly Sauna.

And I thought it was just the dung resin down there.

Despite the apparent lack of sunlight down there I would have to think as well that it would be slightly warmer in the top levels than on the surface, but not that warm as the lower levels. Not as much because of gravity or pressure, we don't even know if Atys has a solid core, but the ... 'compost theory' makes sense I guess.

Perhaps we should send out some Fyros miners to check for us ....

[riveit]

Perhaps we should send out some Fyros miners to check for us ....

The Dragon's breath while he snores keeps the core hot. :D

[kyesmith]

Perhaps we should send out some Fyros miners to check for us ....

Sounds like a great idea.... Oh wait, they dont have a good track record now do they ;)

[calel]

Hey, third time's the charm.

[freeeax]

Sounds like a great idea.... Oh wait, they dont have a good track record now do they ;)

We are known as best diggers and warriors. Its not our fault that history was against our ancestors.

[acridiel]

Actually, wood is an excellent thermal insulator, meaning it does not conduct heat. Wood also has rather low heat capacity. Usually planets are hottest at the core from heat leftover from formation or radioactivity, I think.

Ah, yes of course you are right, confused the terms, sorry. My bad.

[jamela]

Katriell, was this thought prompted by the Soothsayer's introduction (http://forums.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29211)? When I read that I tried to remember if there was any sign of wind in the prime roots, not being a frequent visitor myself, and was assured by others that as well as sap storms and other weather types, there are signs that the roots can be windy.

I think the lack of any snow in regions where there is water, does suggest that the roots do not get quite as cold as the surface does. The climate is likely much more tropical than the surface, with a pretty small temperature range, since it is encased, but Underspring, Abyss, Wastelands and the Trench are obviously isolated and mostly insulated from each other, so you might expect that each has their own micro-climate.

A thought just occurred to me: the fauna and flora in each prime root pocket might give a clue as to how the climate in that pocket compares to the surface.

[dakhound]

my guess is its hotter as there is nowhere for any heat to escape in any roots, I do wonder sometimes why after a sap storm I dont look like some slime monster from all the falling sap

[meloner]

It's closer to the core..so i guess it's hotter. Is that wood separating the PR from the land ? I thought it was a lava coat like Earth has.

[katriell]

It's closer to the core..so i guess it's hotter. Is that wood separating the PR from the land ? I thought it was a lava coat like Earth has.
Yep it's wood. Atys's surface is bark. As Atys grows, the Canopy branches above the surface become larger and denser until the surface becomes a new top layer of the Roots, and the top of the branches becomes the new surface.

There are spots on the ceiling of the PR where light shines through...would these be holes to the surface through which heat could escape?

[jared96]

Would the temperature be cool or warm in the Prime Roots? As one descends toward the inner layers of Atys, does it become colder or warmer?n the Prime Roots, even though there's moisture in the forms of sap and water.

The answer is "it depends"

Decend from Fyros is mid summer where desert temeratures would be 100+F and it will undoubtedly be cooler underground. Drop down from Void in winter and it would undoubtedly be warmer. The laws of thermodynamics dictates that a mass will maintain an average temperature between the extremes. For example, here in New York on a summer day with 100 degree (F) weather, if I dig down 4 feet into the soil, the soil temp at that level is 55 degrees. If I come back in winter at a temp of 5 degrees and dig the same hole to the same depth, the temp will be 55 degrees.

Of course this assumes you are free from any magma domes geothermal fissures, volcanoes and the like.