View Full Version : My newbie findings of Ryzom
November 18th, 2004, 11:37 AM
I'm sorry to say that i'm really really disappointed with Ryzom. I've been looking forward to this game for well over a year or so. I didnt manage to get into the beta's because i couldnt get the download. But thats not what this is about. I know most will think i'm just a troll, or an immature player or just a noob in the MMORPG scene. Well none of that is true unfortunately.
I was really hoping i could get into this game. Having tried many others i'm not getting hooked like i used to get several years ago on all kinds of MMO's. I know content will be added later on and i must say the world of Ryzom is simply breath taking but i dont understand it. I'm not the kind of guy to buy a first person shooter with just the 9mm beretta implemented and a promise the rest will come later. In the meantime keep paying us.
IMHO this game is all beauty over game play which is such a waste. The spell/skill system is great, no more one type of uber spell/class/skill. The world looks awesome, heck first time i saw a predator take down a yubo i was so mesmarized i didnt notice he was chewing on me till i was looking at my corpse. Sadly tho it isnt enough to keep me interested. There simply isnt anything to do. finding good creatures to level your skill is just too much of a chore and crafting is a tad too expensive. i wont even mention the fact that magic is completely useless.
I hope more content will be added and the game will be around long enough to actually get some substance. Till that time i'll be off somewhere. To all you faithfull players out there a big thank you. Eventho i cant agree with you that this game is worth playing i do realize its people like you that will give the developer the chance to improve on what they have. You are keeping the game alive and for that i'd like to thank you. Good luck to you who remain. Maybe we'll get a chance to meet eachother in a couple of months.
November 18th, 2004, 11:53 AM
Sad to see you go :) nice statements about the game without flaming on it :) good sport :)
i was a little sad the first time i entered the game and find the mounts are still not in :) eventho i saw soulsnatser riding those things in beta 1 :)
but i dont agree on the magic part tho :) im having so mutch fun playing a mage big dmg and i can help peeps that are 50 levels above me :)
also its nice that you have all the options for armours and weapons wich make so mutch difrence in the game :)
still sad to see you go and it would indeed be nice if one day you would be back ingame :)
Good luck in what ever you do..
November 18th, 2004, 12:00 PM
Never saw such a mature flame. Amazing.
I am a newbie as well and relatively new to the MMORPG-scene, though I've see a great deal of DAOC & COH, because of addictive friends, i just never played myself. I recently joined through the friends-programm and the graphics are indeed amazing. For a newbie like me there's still a lot to do and i'm not really missing the quests, though when i am on alone, there's not much i can do on my own but look for easy critters and level.
I've been playing OPEN Beta WOW as well and there the reverse is true. Graphics are less, but the gameplay is amazing. For now I will continue a couple of months on Ryzom (there's still A LOT to see/learn for me) and I will buy WoW when it's available in Europe. Play them both for 2-3 months and then make up my mind.
November 18th, 2004, 02:34 PM
Nothing to do?
Well, i've solved that problem with some specific goals, for my guild aswell as for myself.
One of these goals is to solo real bad kitins, theoretically i can already solo a dreaded kincher, tho i never managed to pull just 1 yet ;) Nearly won the fight against a Master Kincher but his smaller dreaded friend came up to help...
I know it ain't a super über high end goal, but small goals like that enable you to keep going.
Now for the crafting being too expensive, everyone knows that, that's why many crafters harvest on the same time: you get the mats for free (and many of them at higher skill), gain skills and can craft freely after that.
For the magic part, i never bothered to exceed lvl 30 magic yet, but i must say healing is quite efficient, now when i see my guildmates' spells hitting i can only say magic is all but useless...
I suggest you keep it up, it's always hard in the beginning, meet a few peeps with whom to share game experience and team up (at least a bit), challenges are everywhere, they just need one to think about them :)
November 18th, 2004, 02:49 PM
kudos to the opening post, well said.
i have to agree with you, i'm also a very experienced gamers both mmog and singleplayer game-wise and the lack of content is starting to get to me.
the graphics and overall atmosphere are captivating, the gameplay is good and there's great variation in skill progression.
But after playing for 6 hours a day, 2 weeks in a row and having a character with a main skill of 50 and the other skills around 30 it feels like walking the hamster wheel whilst watching cable tv.
luckily ryzom makes the leveling grind a lot less boring than competing mmo-games but when it does finally get to you, you're left completely empty handed.
other games offer many storyline based quests, customizable housing, opportunities for social activities such as bars, instruments and the like and extensive clan based options (which i admit i havent explored in Ryzom),
Had there been a bit of a storyline-quest system or anything of the sort then the game would have enough variety to save itself from any source of tedium found in other aspects of the game.
but for now my conclusion is that ryzom's the most visually appealing hamster wheel on the market...
which btw does not mean it isn't enjoyable
November 18th, 2004, 03:00 PM
but for now my conclusion is that ryzom's the most visually appealing hamster wheel on the market...
which btw does not mean it isn't enjoyable i agree :) somekind of endgame would be nice... they announced PvP and Guild vs Guild in patch 2 tho :) i think it will give a new meaning to Ryzom :)
The hamsterwheel thing is really good btw :) i have played a lot of MMORPGs and it all comes down to that :)
its just you as a player who needs to make it difrent :) and the guys from ryzom do good work in event management imho :)
November 18th, 2004, 03:14 PM
in my opinion they do a terrible job of event management - on the grounds that I've been playing since release and the only events I've had chance to be involved with were 1 sightseeing tour (at the point when I'd already visited every square inch of my realm) or a newbie hunt (in newbie island) at the point where there was nothing left there that posed a challenge, I was only there to make money crafting. Probably just bad luck but I could probably name another 20 people with the same experience (all in Tryker)
If its down to players to organise content, I would like to see Ryzom implementing tools to support this (eg an ingame calendar to schedule events, ways of organising large groups of people (grouping that allows 9 people isn't enough) etc etc)
November 18th, 2004, 03:41 PM
I couldn't disagree more about the events. I've been in two official ones since I started (Pyr Levier kidnapping & tournament). And a player run event that had the full support of the guides/gms (messages being broadcast, gm presence to make it more 'official'). There are others I've decided to miss (noob island hunts, ghost stories).
The events in Ryzom are some of the best organised and frequent I've seen in an MMORPG.
November 18th, 2004, 03:50 PM
well i have played a lot of MMORGPS where there was no single event ever... for all the mounths/years that i play. im happy to see some around here that are fun (talking about the tournament)
November 18th, 2004, 04:13 PM
ok so it looks like they are holding some good events just not necessarily making sure that they are spread evenly across the playerbase/realms.
One thing that does grate is the role of guides - they play this weird not-quite IC but not really OOC role that doesn't really gel with me. I don't know whether I can roleplay with them because I don't know how they fit into the world. They seem to play the role of moderators of chat but also semi-characters in the world. I'd like to see a distinction between NPC's played by staff (who should be just like any other player) and those fulfilling an OOC role in game ie moderating, answering tickets etc
November 18th, 2004, 04:21 PM
i see them more as the great oracles of the game :)
And they are really nice :D
November 18th, 2004, 04:40 PM
sorry - I expect a lot more.
Who are they?
Why are they there?
Why do they not roleplay - is this a roleplaying game or not?
and if it is why do they not encourage others to roleplay?
How do their characters fit into the world - they are obviously characters of long standing (hence why they are so strong, so skilled) so where have they been? What have they been doing? eg Where do Flump and Flipple fit into the Tryker world?
If they are OOC helpers why don't they have a LOT more power?
could be I've just misunderstood what this game is about - I thought it was about playing a character from one of the four diverse realms, finding your way in a world beset with kitins where two mysterious other races, the kami and the karavan, exist. At the moment I'm not sure why these two races are there - why they charge us money to teleport us around the realm, or where they stand with regards to the kitins - they obviously have superior technology but I haven't heard reports of them helping out in raids etc.
Also there's no mention in the manual of a group of oracles (the guides) and I can't get a good handle on what they are doing in game besides acting as moderators. Now and again they seem to turn up and stand around, helping people with tickets, and now and again they make some half hearted attempt to roleplay. (for examples see the Wormbreath and Shaman Oba conversations)
I would suggest that Nevrax set some clear boundaries around what their role is. If its an OOC role to help players then give them more power. This half-way house role doesn't work at all for me, as it doesn't convince me of their authority in either position.
At the moment it looks like the whole roleplay side of the game hasn't been thought through or particularly developed in any real sense. Very disappointing for me, especially when the region chats are full of OOC conversation but no actual roleplaying.
As for 'the guides are really nice' - ah well then. Forget everything I just said.
November 18th, 2004, 05:00 PM
you have some good points. but i dont mind them not to roleplay.. but thats just me
i agree they should be able to do more tho..
" As for 'the guides are really nice' - ah well then. Forget everything I just said. "
i knew it would get to you :P
November 18th, 2004, 05:14 PM
lol - hehe sorry - you were right.
November 18th, 2004, 07:02 PM
I've been playing this for a week now and as the first poster said I'm starting to get a bit frustrated with the leveling.
I spent yesterday evening with someone called Pebbles - we were team foraging. They were prospecting and protecting the source while I picked it up.
It was excellent working as a team we were having a chat at the same time. We got a load of mats and each got a couple of levels. However, I was reaching for my paper back at the same time!
I play HL2 and its always on edge - your always having to concnetrate.
Same with games like Joint Opperations - again your playing as a team. And things are always on a knife edge. In that enviroment however - there is no progression.
This is my first MMO I played UO some years ago for a couple of weeks. Ended up playing too much and deleting it :). I'd realised that I could play it in a window on my work PC - painfull.
Like the first poster - if the content improves and if the game is still around in 3 months time - I'll comeback and try again.
I like the way there is never a restriction on the number of paths that you can take! I just find doing the same thing again and again is something they created PC's to stop not make you do.
I've been looking at trying SWG - especially with the New upgrade that allows you to balance the FPS action junky and the tactical Civilisation player within me.
Hope this game keeps on going and keeps getting better
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