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malkor
January 20th, 2005, 04:48 AM
Matisians and all homin friends!

On this night, a new chapter was born in the Glory of the Goddess Jena. Through a collection of the Gladius Jenae, and members of Pegasus Foundation and VeniVediVichi, the demon Sacred Sap were purged from the sacred Fleeting Garden! A heavy blow has been dealt to those who taint our land, and maintain a presence in "Kami Circle."

Know that while these tribes still retain a standing, they are now, beyond a doubt, enemies of all Karavan!

To arms my brothers and sisters! Let the laws of our Matis King Yrkanis ring through Atys, and foretell of the utter destruction of the Kami Devils!

Mai, Priestess of the Gladius Jenae


(screen shots: http://www.angelfire.com/ri2/ryzom/index.html )
(For info on the Gladius Jenae, check out our guild postings on the North American Guild forum, " A new chapter in Matisian Law")

bodywand
January 20th, 2005, 05:14 AM
You may have noticed a lack of guards in the Green Seed camp today. It was my fault.. I killed them all.

raynes
January 20th, 2005, 06:22 AM
Your actions won't be tolerated. The Green Seed have paid the price for your attack. The blood of these guards and many others is on your hands.

http://icandies.org/ryzom/greenseed/screenshot023.jpg

raynes
January 20th, 2005, 06:37 AM
For now I beleive that we have an agreement. If no harm comes to Kamis or their supporters, no harm will come to the Karavan or thier supporters. Be warned though, should you break this agreement the responce will be swift and tough.

Until next time...

malkor
January 20th, 2005, 06:44 AM
For now I beleive that we have an agreement. If no harm comes to Kamis or their supporters, no harm will come to the Karavan or thier supporters. Be warned though, should you break this agreement the responce will be swift and tough.

Until next time...


Pending formal a formal decliration from the founds of Gladius Jenae, or his Royal Highness King Yrkanis, let this be known.

Raynes in this case (and ONLY this case) speaks for the Gladius Jenae as well. Let it be known that all formal hostilties are here by called to a stand-still, while each and ever homin considers what seeds have been sewn this day.

Let these words ring in the ears of every homin from the Mightiest matis, to the most confused of Zorai : Wait and Hope (http://www.angelfire.com/ri2/ryzom/images/convo.JPG)

Mai,
Child of Jena
Priestess of the Gladius Jenae

jgi47ak
January 20th, 2005, 08:13 AM
It should be noted that the Pegasus Foundation is a neutral guild. I can only assume that the members participating in this internal Matisian affair were “neutralizing” demon worshipers in order to neutralize unbalanced fame. However, the uncivilized and intrinsically illegal invasion of the Royal Matis lands to exact some sort of barbaric “revenge” is obviously the product of deranged minds and warmongering fools. We have agreed to a temporary peace until a more permanent and civilized justice can be attained.

This is, of course, assuming that these demon worshipers are capable of respecting a civilized lawful agreement even though they reject the civilized law of Jena.

Ivarion
Jurisconsultus que Matias
High Officer of Gladius Jenae

xcomvic
January 20th, 2005, 09:07 AM
Rather interesting beginnings... I know where this will lead to, I am all for it:)

bodywand
January 20th, 2005, 09:22 AM
Heh.. I've been killing Karavan tribes for a long time.. didn't even know about this before I killed Green Seed. No reason to stop now. Some give nice fame :). Gladius Jenae's gonna have to watch their back in PR too.. declaring yourself this anti-kami and anti-unity is basically declaring war on Comitatus Praetorian. Well.. anyone in PR who isn't a friend of CP has to look out really. The exception is foragers.. if you have a pick you will be left alone.. (wearing heavy armor and holding a pick isn't a good enough disguise as a forager either ;o). We like our PvP.

malkor
January 20th, 2005, 02:39 PM
Heh.. I've been killing Karavan tribes for a long time.. didn't even know about this before I killed Green Seed. No reason to stop now. Some give nice fame :). Gladius Jenae's gonna have to watch their back in PR too.. declaring yourself this anti-kami and anti-unity is basically declaring war on Comitatus Praetorian. Well.. anyone in PR who isn't a friend of CP has to look out really.

It saddens me to hear that our kindness is falling on deaf ears...

I had hoped with the "Kult of Kami" willing to halt hostilities that the rest of those loathsome followers of the fallen gods would follow suit, but alas it seems this is not so.

However, know this! So long as it does not circumvent the Grace of the Goddess Jena, nor defy the will of King Yrkanis, Gladius Jenae is true to its word. We will NOT reinstitute hostilities until we are able to reach a more unified Matis, we will not sink to your level. But know this also! We will not tolerate attacks on the Children of Jena! Fist and the Comitatus Praetorian have made enemies this day, and should any Matisian see the slaughter of Green Seeds, or any of the Goddesses children, let them unleash the full furry of our nation upon that homin so deluded with lies and a lust for power that they will never walk our holy ground again!

Gladius Jenae will soon return, and bring with it a manifesto for all Matis! Know our laws! Know our fealty! For soon, you shall know our Wrath!

Mai,
Priestess of the Gladius Jenae

zumwalt
January 20th, 2005, 03:31 PM
I speak only for myself when I say this, I did participate in last nights initial slaughter of the Sacred Sap.

The Sargents of the city of Davae had sent me out on a mission to slay the wicked Sacred Sap members do to the evil sour kami preachings they were dealing which was starting to hurt the lands.

As a devout follower of Jena and a noble Matis Citizen, I could not refuse the Sargents request.

I killed the Sacred Sap that was causing such a problem, and I killed a few other clans of raiders in the Fleeting Gardens to assit the Sargent.

He has also given me a list of more targets that are both Kami followers and Raiders that need to be purged from the lands, and I will continue to purge them as long as I am given need to.

Anyone who gets in my way will also be found of treason to King Yrkanis and guilty of blasphmy against Jena, and will suffer the consequences of those actions.

I proudly take the jobs that my lands offer to remove the retched evil kind that are poisoning the minds of the Matis young.

raynes
January 20th, 2005, 03:36 PM
It should be noted that the Pegasus Foundation is a neutral guild. I can only assume that the members participating in this internal Matisian affair were “neutralizing” demon worshipers in order to neutralize unbalanced fame. However, the uncivilized and intrinsically illegal invasion of the Royal Matis lands to exact some sort of barbaric “revenge” is obviously the product of deranged minds and warmongering fools. We have agreed to a temporary peace until a more permanent and civilized justice can be attained.

This is, of course, assuming that these demon worshipers are capable of respecting a civilized lawful agreement even though they reject the civilized law of Jena.

Ivarion
Jurisconsultus que Matias
High Officer of Gladius Jenae

Lies! Your the Pegasus Foundation has a high fame level with the Karavan and a much lower one with the Kami. The attack yesterday could do only one thing, gain them more popularity with the Karavan while hurting the Kami more. The attack wasn't any attempt to balance neutrality.

I hope the Kami supporting guilds are paying attention to the actions of the Pegasus Foundation and not simply listening to their words. Their actions clearly show their chosen side, support of the Karavan.

zumwalt
January 20th, 2005, 03:59 PM
The members of the Pegasus Foundation were following orders given by the Sargent of Davae, that the Sacred Sap had strayed from there encampment and started to weed seeds of deception throughout the Matis lands.

This broke there agreement with our king and we were sent out to kill those who were involved in the breach of the agreement.

Now the Sacred Sap have once again returned to there village after learning there lesson, that none shall disobey King Yrkanis and go against the teachings of Jena without punishment.

If any Kami OR Karavan clan or raider shows up on the Sargents list, they will be taken care of accordingly.

We take those missions in pride, knowing that we are doing justice to Matis Lands under King Yrkanis's rule, and we are also doing as Jena has desired in her teachings and law.

If you wish to remain a citizen of Matis and walk amongst the Yrkanis people in peace, I suggest you learn the laws and take heed to the warnings of the Sargent, that any who fall short of the laws and go against them, shall be punished!

zarzen
January 20th, 2005, 04:03 PM
You twist words in your favor and make what is a matter concerning the Verdant Heights into something larger only to justify your own attacks on our heartland.

The Fleeting Garden were never "Given" to the Sacred Sap. They invested it, doing the bidding of their Kami masters. I refer you to this passage from our recent history:

"2484
The rest of the region of Majestic Gardens explored and made relatively safe.
Region of Fleeting Garden explored, Lenardi Bravichi begins work to cultivate roots to form a natural barrier with Majestic Garden border against possible kitin attacks.
2485
Kami intervention in Fleeting Garden to prevent Matis manipulation of nature, great barrier works abandoned.
Sacred Sap, pro-Kami tribe, present in Fleeting garden.
"

Indeed, the Kami interference was only a ploy to prevent the Matis from trying to securing their lands against the Kitins. We can only wonder why. Their presence is not sanctionned by King Yrkanis, and therefore it is entirely our business to remove them if we wish. Any reprisals directed at the Verdant Heights could be taken as a direct, unprovoked attack upon our lands.

raynes
January 20th, 2005, 04:13 PM
You twist words in your favor and make what is a matter concerning the Verdant Heights into something larger only to justify your own attacks on our heartland.

The Fleeting Garden were never "Given" to the Sacred Sap. They invested it, doing the bidding of their Kami masters. I refer you to this passage from our recent history:

"2484
The rest of the region of Majestic Gardens explored and made relatively safe.
Region of Fleeting Garden explored, Lenardi Bravichi begins work to cultivate roots to form a natural barrier with Majestic Garden border against possible kitin attacks.
2485
Kami intervention in Fleeting Garden to prevent Matis manipulation of nature, great barrier works abandoned.
Sacred Sap, pro-Kami tribe, present in Fleeting garden.
"

Indeed, the Kami interference was only a ploy to prevent the Matis from trying to securing their lands against the Kitins. We can only wonder why. Their presence is not sanctionned by King Yrkanis, and therefore it is entirely our business to remove them if we wish. Any reprisals directed at the Verdant Heights could be taken as a direct, unprovoked attack upon our lands.


"More recently, under the rule of Jinovitch, in 2508, the Kamis were overtly persecuted in Matis lands. However, since the accession to the throne of the more liberal king, Yrkanis, the Kamis are now tolerated."

Under the very order of King Yrkanis, the Kami are to be tolerated. Killing them or thier supporters is not tolerating them.

zarzen
January 20th, 2005, 04:18 PM
"More recently, under the rule of Jinovitch, in 2508, the Kamis were overtly persecuted in Matis lands. However, since the accession to the throne of the more liberal king, Yrkanis, the Kamis are now tolerated."

Under the very order of King Yrkanis, the Kami are to be tolerated. Killing them or thier supporters is not tolerating them.

As Zumwalt says, this position has obviously changed with recent times, otherwise the officials of our lands wouldn't be calling for their removal. Worshippers of the Kami are tolerated in our lands, just not those who apparently do not respect their hosts. Those same officials obviously have their reasons, it's no secret the Kami are up to something, what with those strange domes of light and their attending "Living Tree" homins or whatever, appearing here and there on Atys.

zumwalt
January 20th, 2005, 04:30 PM
The Sacred Sap have been targeted by the King as nothing more than bandits that are a hinderence in our lands and the King himself has asked that the Matasian people kill the evil Sacred Sap and remove there deception from the Matis lands.

Apparently he has discovered something about them that has not been mentioned as of yet, other than the fact they are trying to stop us from further defending our own lands from the Kitin invasions.

For as long as the Sargents under King Yrkanis's rule requests us to kill Sacred Sap, we shall do so, until such time as the request is removed from our list of enemies that need to be slain.

sidusar
January 20th, 2005, 07:11 PM
For as long as the Sargents under King Yrkanis's rule requests us to kill Sacred Sap, we shall do so, until such time as the request is removed from our list of enemies that need to be slain.
"We must try to free the Matis from the influence of the Karavan and bring them round to the Kami way of living. This is why, in 2509, the present Matis king, Yrkanis, was given refuge in Zora and helped to muster an army to depose the ultra-Karavan monarch and install a more tolerant government. This was the first step to coax the Matis into the Kami world. But word has got out that there is growing opposition against Yrkanis within his own kingdom. We must remain vigilant!"

Granted, this comes from the mouth of the Zorai, and should thus be regarded with some suspicion. Still, the Zorai may be misguided, but they are no fools, and they obviously have reason to believe that not all Matis are devout followers of king Yrkanis. So how can you be so sure these sargents are following their king's orders when they give us missions to kill Sacred Sap members? Have you spoken with king Yrkanis yourself? Perhaps these sargents are acting of their own account. Or even worse, following orders from one of their superiors who disagrees with the king's tolerant policies and is abusing his position to further his own agenda. Before we go out and start another war between the homin races, we'd do well to hear how king Yrkanis himself thinks about these matters.

zumwalt
January 20th, 2005, 07:50 PM
Interesting in deed, ok, now we need a GM to roleplay the king so we know which way this should flow.

Any GM out there want to hop in on this and roleplay the King?

raynes
January 20th, 2005, 08:02 PM
Interesting in deed, ok, now we need a GM to roleplay the king so we know which way this should flow.

Any GM out there want to hop in on this and roleplay the King?

I totally agree. This scenario we have setup is really interesting. It would be really nice if we could have a GM jump in and play the part of someone that could have a effect on our roleplay.

On a side note, I hope everyone reading these posts knows that we are just roleplaying. None of us have any hard feelings for each other, and I'm pretty sure each of us is very happy that the others are playing the roles as they are. Just wish more Kami RP'ers would jump in. Tough standing alone. :)

reynjl0
January 20th, 2005, 09:37 PM
Reposted for those who miss other thread:

Considering our recent emergence, many are wondering what it is that Gladius Jenae represents. Many might have the misconception that we are beating the war drums and calling for the eradication of every Kami worshipper on Atys. That is simply not the case, however if you only hear some of my more vitriolic colleagues that is what you may surmise. We intend to foster the return of the true Matisian law and the devout worship of Jena in our lands first and foremost. Years of apathy has softened and corrupted the faith of the Matisian folk under the guise of tolerance. Let it be known that the Gladius Jenae represents a new home for the bold and noble Matisian warriors whose patience for Kami presence in our lands has grown thin. Unlike other guilds who waver in the face of duty and whose fearful position they call neutrality we have drawn our line in the sand.

Choose this day whom you must serve my friends, a principled alliance that will restore the Matis as the chosen children of Jena or serve a group of low moral fibre content that only seek to empower themselves for the sake of power alone to the glory of neither the Karavan, Matis, or Jena. The Matisian folk have rested too long in ambivalent hesitation, unsure of where their future and destiny lay. Choose carefully whom you serve, for when the righteous path of destiny does unfold, you will wish to be remembered as one who aided in the trumphant restoration and not as one afraid of their very fate. Then winds of change are blowing fiercely now and the sword of Jena, Gladius Jenae, is burning brightly. For those bold Matis or Karavan followers of other races who wish to embrace that change and realize the righteous destiny that is theirs if they could only see it, the Gladius Jenae may very well be your new home.

Our dear king Yrkanis, though we swear utmost fealty, is tolerant where tolerance is inadvisable. Recall that the young prince was saved at the hands of a Zora Kami and aided by the Kami to overthrow King Jinovitch, whose absolute stance on the law of the Karavan no one can question. Yrkanis, may he see the light, has been subtly influenced by Kamist leanings and calls it tolerance. Gladius Jenae in no way represents genocide or the destruction of all Kami worshippers on every continent. Our goal is to restore Verdant Heights and the lands of Matis to what it should rightfully be, purging our lands and our lands only of Kamist influence.

We hold true to the pact of mutual assistance and honor our treaty of peace. When kitin threaten the livelihood of all homin, we are by your side if only then. Do not believe that as soon as our ranks swell we will abrogate our treaty and invade Fyros or Zorai lands, for that is simply not the case. The target of our intentions is the misguided hearts of the Matisian people and the faltering faith of Jena as we see it, for all revolutions start in the hearts of good homin. And we still hold out hope for you, o poor misguided followers of the Kami, that you may see the error of your faith and realize the great deception that has been played on your fragile reality. The Kami do not have your best interests at heart my friend, we do.

-Berrule, Officer of the Gladius Jenae

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Things are getting a little hot around here, wow. Keep up the good work everybody. A lot of people have complained that Ryzom has been lacking in content, and I have come to realize that it is partially our own fault. To a large extent, the community has the opportunity to create the most thrilling content on its own. Its a living world, so let's act like it. Cheers !

zumwalt
January 20th, 2005, 09:58 PM
/ooc
blah a plug for joining a guild in the middle of our roleplay
I still want to know what King Yrkanis has to say about all this so we can continue the dialect with some sort of intelligent conversation based on the actual kings words..

Come on Takashi! be the king! and Cerest, you hop in as a queen in control of the king, or something :(

jgi47ak
January 20th, 2005, 10:21 PM
/ooc
If a game master is going to play the role of king yrkanis, it would be handy if we could get some advance warning so everyone who wants to be involved can try to be logged on at that time.

There's no need to rush anything. This situation will probably work out better if we all have time to think and plan.

zumwalt
January 20th, 2005, 10:25 PM
/ooc
Well, I hope one does, we got the foundation for a very good roleplay event started, including the interaction of King Yrkanis and how his troups are giving out missions and how the people of Matis are following his rule...

raynes
January 20th, 2005, 10:28 PM
/ooc
blah a plug for joining a guild in the middle of our roleplay
I still want to know what King Yrkanis has to say about all this so we can continue the dialect with some sort of intelligent conversation based on the actual kings words..

Come on Takashi! be the king! and Cerest, you hop in as a queen in control of the king, or something :(

/ooc
I completely agree. We had a real good thing going. We were getting deep into our parts with passion. One of the biggest things with this game is that players are suppose to be able to form the story. So here we are doing just that. Think of how much of a boost it would be for roleplaying if people saw that our actions actually caused a main NPC to appear and coment. The story can't revolve around invasions only! Help us make other parts come to life!

perrako
January 21st, 2005, 01:13 AM
I speak not for my guild, homins. Only Gfunk has that honor. I speak for myself.

When I was a fledgling Zorai, I saw the Karavan and spat on them just as any good Zorai did. I lived in many guilds, travelled from home to home. I was ready to settle down in Infinity. As I slept, a vision came to me. I saw a Kami with the mask of a Karavan.

"Perrako, your guild. They want you not.
We, the Karavan will accept you." The croaking voice said with a metallic backdrop, so to speak.

I woke up after a long day of exploring the roots with my new guildmates. I checked my pocket for the ever present list of guildmates.
Nothing was there but dust. I pulled it inside out to make sure.
I tried to speak to my guildies. I got no response.

Was my vision correct? I knew I had to investigate it further.

I had just recently made it to Liberty Lake, where the people are short and the cloppers aggro. I saw a teaching event. I was interested to learn. I met Gfunk there, and at the mass combat event the next day I was invited into his guild. From that day forth, I have seen the hospitality and practicality of the Karavan. Looking back, I see that the Kami were using me, the sneaky rodents. No Kami warrior appreciated my blade as an extension of me, but they appreciated it as the head of a Karavan warrior. They looked no further than the hilt.

From that day forth, I have made it my mission to help out my misguided Zorai compatriots.

So you, Fyros, and you, Zorai, I bring this message for you.
Look further than the hilt.
Fight in a war that you believe in, not that you are told to believe in.
Join with me in obeying Jena, the one and only goddess!

raynes
January 21st, 2005, 02:14 AM
I speak not for my guild, homins. Only Gfunk has that honor. I speak for myself.

When I was a fledgling Zorai, I saw the Karavan and spat on them just as any good Zorai did. I lived in many guilds, travelled from home to home. I was ready to settle down in Infinity. As I slept, a vision came to me. I saw a Kami with the mask of a Karavan.

"Perrako, your guild. They want you not.
We, the Karavan will accept you." The croaking voice said with a metallic backdrop, so to speak.

I woke up after a long day of exploring the roots with my new guildmates. I checked my pocket for the ever present list of guildmates.
Nothing was there but dust. I pulled it inside out to make sure.
I tried to speak to my guildies. I got no response.

Was my vision correct? I knew I had to investigate it further.

I had just recently made it to Liberty Lake, where the people are short and the cloppers aggro. I saw a teaching event. I was interested to learn. I met Gfunk there, and at the mass combat event the next day I was invited into his guild. From that day forth, I have seen the hospitality and practicality of the Karavan. Looking back, I see that the Kami were using me, the sneaky rodents. No Kami warrior appreciated my blade as an extension of me, but they appreciated it as the head of a Karavan warrior. They looked no further than the hilt.

From that day forth, I have made it my mission to help out my misguided Zorai compatriots.

So you, Fyros, and you, Zorai, I bring this message for you.
Look further than the hilt.
Fight in a war that you believe in, not that you are told to believe in.
Join with me in obeying Jena, the one and only goddess!

You should have that mask ripped from your face and replaced with a Karavan one. You no longer deserve such an honor.

zumwalt
January 21st, 2005, 06:37 AM
I admire such greatness that Perrako has shown to his people, that the Karavan see the truth within and bring out the light in all homins.

That the Karavan bring honor to there name, no matter what race they are from.

Diversity and unity is what the Karavan cause is, and through this shall once again bring all Homins back to the ways of Jena!

As you can see, even Perrako has seen the wisdom of joining forces with the Karavan in the united front against the ever growing presence of the Kitin.

I implore you to look within yourself Raynes, to find the peace you so much deserve, leave the Kami and join with the Karavan in a united front!

raynes
January 21st, 2005, 07:32 AM
I admire such greatness that Perrako has shown to his people, that the Karavan see the truth within and bring out the light in all homins.

That the Karavan bring honor to there name, no matter what race they are from.

Diversity and unity is what the Karavan cause is, and through this shall once again bring all Homins back to the ways of Jena!

As you can see, even Perrako has seen the wisdom of joining forces with the Karavan in the united front against the ever growing presence of the Kitin.

I implore you to look within yourself Raynes, to find the peace you so much deserve, leave the Kami and join with the Karavan in a united front!

I would rather be ripped apart by a raving pack of Gingos than follow the empty word of the witch Jena.

xcomvic
January 21st, 2005, 10:47 AM
I just want to see some Kami vs Anti-Kami action happen. Come on folks! Get this into gear already! And if some Kami vs Karavan guild action happens sometime in the future, I would love to be a mediator for such an event!

raynes
January 21st, 2005, 02:18 PM
I just want to see some Kami vs Anti-Kami action happen. Come on folks! Get this into gear already! And if some Kami vs Karavan guild action happens sometime in the future, I would love to be a mediator for such an event!

/ooc

I'd love this too, but unfortunality until more people to join our guild or other guilds get into the Kami side of the rp it's not really possible. Eventually we will grow in size and that sort of stuff will happen, but right now there isn't enough support from other Kami players to make it fun and challenging.

sathla
January 21st, 2005, 02:50 PM
I fight for hot and fuzzy kami love!

zumwalt
January 21st, 2005, 03:21 PM
/ooc
That and some people are taking our roleplaying to seriously, instead of leaving as roleplaying. I am already seeing people get all huffy and puffy about this roleplayed Kami vs Karavan, which is not race against race by any form, its followers agains followers.

Last night I went through the list of missions I still had not completed out of Knoll of Disent, and I had 1 Kill Enemy Tribe (Kami-Aligned I presume, no notes on them) and 2 Kill Enemy Bandits.

Come to find out, all of the Bandits and most of the Tribes are Kami Aligned in the Matis and Tryker regions, and they are Karavan aligned in the Fyros / Zoria regions.

So all those people getting upset over it, if they have ever killed a bandit or tribe member in there area, they did an anti Kami or anti Karavan move, along these same lines, practically every mission I do, has some negative ramafication against Kami if I do them in Matis or Tryker, and the same for Zoria and Fyros against Karavan.

So really, what choice do we have on faction if we want to do missions?
/*shrugs*/

Raynes this has been some great roleplay, but I think were at a stalemate until our challenges make some sort of ingame change, I mean roleplay stuff, where we can do some roleplay in game that will change something or make a difference, sadly.

mrshad
January 21st, 2005, 04:17 PM
Temperrr wanted it made clearly known that she had nothing to do with the events depicted in the screen shots.

raynes
January 21st, 2005, 04:26 PM
/ooc
That and some people are taking our roleplaying to seriously, instead of leaving as roleplaying. I am already seeing people get all huffy and puffy about this roleplayed Kami vs Karavan, which is not race against race by any form, its followers agains followers.

Last night I went through the list of missions I still had not completed out of Knoll of Disent, and I had 1 Kill Enemy Tribe (Kami-Aligned I presume, no notes on them) and 2 Kill Enemy Bandits.

Come to find out, all of the Bandits and most of the Tribes are Kami Aligned in the Matis and Tryker regions, and they are Karavan aligned in the Fyros / Zoria regions.

So all those people getting upset over it, if they have ever killed a bandit or tribe member in there area, they did an anti Kami or anti Karavan move, along these same lines, practically every mission I do, has some negative ramafication against Kami if I do them in Matis or Tryker, and the same for Zoria and Fyros against Karavan.

So really, what choice do we have on faction if we want to do missions?
/*shrugs*/

Raynes this has been some great roleplay, but I think were at a stalemate until our challenges make some sort of ingame change, I mean roleplay stuff, where we can do some roleplay in game that will change something or make a difference, sadly.


I know all of the under level 150 tribes in Zorai lands are Kami based and the ones over 150 are Karavan based. It's much of the reason why I don't go running out killing Karavan camps, I'm just not powerful enough to do it. And getting people together to take out the AnitKami camp is about as easy as walkng up and petting a gingo without it attacking you. It's also why I went and killed the Green Seed. It wasn't because it was in Matis Lands, it was because it was one of the few Karavan camps I could actually take on myself (as there wasn't anyone interested in responding to the Sacred Sap incedent). The action had a more powerful effect though, so it worked out for the better.

I wasn't aware the bandits were aligned with anyone, I thought they went agro on everyone. I know that killing them does not change fame levels.

Concerning your coment about missions, you do have a choice, you just have to do the missions for the side you want to represent. Granted if you are a Matis and want to become Kami aligned you were going to have to work harder, but it is possible. What you don't have a choice over is having fame affected in some way.

And you are dead on about people taking our roleplaying to seriously. The number one comment I get when I roleplay is "Relax, it's just a game". Which is really funny, because they are the ones who need to learn to relax and realise what they see and hear is just part of playing the game. If you see two players in a heated arguement, one is praising the Kami, the other praising the Karavan it's not real. The players argueing have nothing against each other (in fact in my case many are on my friends list).

These past few days have been a incredible fun. But I would be lieing if I didn't say this has also brought some frustration. Mostly from other players who just simply don't care in the least bit. I would of thought that someone taking out a tribes camp would generate some excitement. It didn't. The only responces I got were "we will keep that in mind when we see them around" or "it will respawn, right?".

It's ironic players how players want stuff to happen. They want game changes. They want their actions to affect the story. Yet very few will go out and do things that will have an effect. Look at taking down a tribes camp for example. People will say that it won't do any good. I don't beleive that. Having seen the dedication the dev team has for this game, if players went out and killed the same tribe several times a day for a month, I bet you would see a reaction by that tribe. The devs do watch what the players do, that became clear when they announced the names of the 10 first players to find the encylopedia entries. Or the goo is another example. How many times have people gone and just dug up mission goo? I honestly beleive that if the devs saw this massive amount of mission goo being removed from the ground, they would do something.

Finally I want to coment to the event staff, the GM's, and all of Nevrax. I know you are reading the roleplaying that is going on. I hope you are doing something to help us continue our roleplay. We have made a very good attempt to make he story happen, now it's your turn to do something to continue to make it happen. As a side note if Takashi comes up with a pvp event or a gladiator event in responce to this, I am going to find out where he is, fly there and slap him with a wet trout. Right now there isn't enough support on the Kami side to have those types of events.

reynjl0
January 21st, 2005, 08:26 PM
RP off:

Raynes, for your sake, our sake, and the sake of the progression of events I hope that more Kami followers come under your fold of the KoK and can assist you. I agree that the balance does seem lopsided to the Karavan currently. Players who do not RP should realize that they dont have to talk the talk of RP, as many are averse to doing, in order to further the goals of an RPing guild. They can advance the goal of the Kami by silent action alone and let a spokesperson do the RPing for them.

In many ways the cards are already stacked against neutrality as Zumwalt illustrated in his excellent thread on fame mythbusting. Players who wish to remain absolutely neutral may find it more difficult to do so in an increasingly polarized environment.

I'll be truthful, the Gladius Jenae is a babe of a guild and all current members, all 7 of us, are under level 150. So I wouldn't presume defeat if I were you if any PvP or GvG event happened to occur However our we are likely to grow in strength and numbers hopefully.

Berrule, Gladius Jenae Officer

vaquero1
January 21st, 2005, 10:52 PM
CP is PRO Kami always have been always will......watch you compass homins in PVP areas we WILL come down on all those that have harmed Kami in any way...with exeption of harvesters....they will be left alone. (Leave our harvesters alone and we shall leave yours alone...Harm a CP harvester and we will send you to your grave.)

We are not neutral.
We are Kami.
We are about unity when it comes to Kiten.
Anything else and we just wanna have fun.

squidna
January 25th, 2005, 12:58 AM
Perhaps you've noticed, but Sacred Sap leaders have responded to the attempted purge by condemning any who gain accolades from Matis-- no thanks to a few who took their problem and made it everybody's problem. Perhaps they can be the ones to tell us how much Matis fame is necessary to make the Sacred Sap patrols attack someone on sight.

zarzen
January 25th, 2005, 01:07 AM
Less than -100 global, anyway.

I'm not sure if patrols ever attack, to be frank. Tribal villages are another matter, obviously.

josephm
January 25th, 2005, 04:25 AM
The Karavan knows fear and distrust may well be used to manipulate people. The Karavan, your so called 'leaders' use these methods to coerce you to blind yourselves from the truth. Should Jena be hurtful then to the wastelands with her. However, there are those of us, Kami included who believe Jena to be as kind as Ma-Duk, and her dicipiles to use her only as a figurehead to gain power over our fellow homins.

That is why there are those of us with much love in our hearts, Zorai and Kami both who have love and best wishes for our friend Perrako and those like him. They're hearts are still pure, though misguided. We hope in our hearts that they will once again open themselves to Ma-Duk's warm embrace.

As for the events of 2485...
You Matis with your technilogical wonders often cease to see beyond the flickering lights that so easily dazzle your eyes. Indeed you would flay the land to rid yourselves of the kitin scourge and indeed in this we stand together, steadfast, and unwavering.
Yet you dare think ill of those who would serve only to protect you! Yes Matis, indeed, this is no mocking ploy but simple truth.

Fearful of the Kitin, fearful only of what the Karavan would have you believe, you forget one thing. The GOO! This cancerous entity scours the land. As of yet we have no cure that any homin can produce for the plague. The only thing that stops it seems to be the careful cultivating of the land by the Kami. Only in this way are the wilds of Atys strong enough to resist the goo.

Had you reaped the land of all natural resources...Had you build your gigantic mechanations of death and destruction, you would have failed. Evil is unto Evil Matis. Evil is unto Evil. You would have created only death, and in return the goo would have swept in unchecked. Destroying every homin. What would your Karavan say then? what would they do? Had we been so unkind as to let this happen, to let the goo ravage Matis unchecked, there would be no Homins for the Karavan to rule. They would rule their goo. yes THEIR goo. When have they fought this canerous tide? When have they encouraged that you still it?

Only when directly attcked by the goo did the Karavan call homins to arms. Their pet ran unchecked. They needed control. They need the goo and perhaps the kitin to entertain their lust for power.

Jena, I would spit on Jena if only because she lets such tyrants rule and in her stead. I apologize, the Kami often warn me of my temper..perhaps I am mistaken. Perhaps Jena doesn't exist at all, but is a story concocted by the Karavan. Or perhaps they have trapped her, leach from her the mysterious powers that the hold. Perhaps the 'Great Dragon' they teach in their lore is in truth Jena, whom you would call a 'terrible' spirit though she is your greatest savior.

No dear friends, thuogh I weep in my heart, I will do everything in my power to help you. I will do my best in any way possible to rid you of the Karavan menace.

ooc/ wow I just read the entire thread backwards because I changed my settings just before I read it...oh well I suppose it plays a good introduction to my character. I'll have to fix that whole thread thing though.

madnak
January 25th, 2005, 05:11 AM
The Kami have no interest in protecting us. They only protect their land, and are using homins to that end. When the kitin and the goo are gone, I expect they will seek to exterminate hominkind. The danger we pose to their precious resources means more to them than the lives and even existence of homins. They have made that clear.

There is no association between the goo and the Karavan. The goo is probably the work of the Great Dragon, and one of the major goals of the Karavan is to eliminate it. The Kami wail about the goo, but they attack those who would study and understand it. It is certainly not the Karavan that are hiding something about the nature of the goo.

We know the Dragon will destroy Atys. It's important to preserve this world as long as we can, but this is a losing battle. Childishly clinging to this world when we know what lurks beneath its surface is extremely foolish. The Kami are desperate and mad. They want immortality and refuse to accept the truth. The Karavan, on the other hand, are already preparing to shepherd us to a better world when the time comes.

Which is the path of wisdom?