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raynes
February 28th, 2005, 04:27 PM
I'd like to organize a goo harvesting event. I'm looking for your thoughts, suggestion, and comment on how this can be setup.

zumwalt
February 28th, 2005, 04:47 PM
Other than just saying we harvested goo, whats the purpose in this event?
Just looking for some clerity, is this just a roleplay event to say we are cleaning up goo, (although it won't make any ingame difference), or is there something else?

raynes
February 28th, 2005, 04:49 PM
Other than just saying we harvested goo, whats the purpose in this event?
Just looking for some clerity, is this just a roleplay event to say we are cleaning up goo, (although it won't make any ingame difference), or is there something else?

It would be a roleplay event just like any other player run event. They really serve no purpose.

vinnyq
February 28th, 2005, 06:02 PM
any rewards!??!

OH, and what the heck is this thing?

http://kjmx.org/lpd/images/zoom/NRZNWQ/screenshot211.jpg

raynes
February 28th, 2005, 07:05 PM
any rewards!??!

OH, and what the heck is this thing?

http://kjmx.org/lpd/images/zoom/NRZNWQ/screenshot211.jpg

That's what I am asking you folks more or less. What sort of awards would you like? What is a fair way of judging the winners (remember goo is a mission item and can't be traded)?

The basic premise is a good one, it's just how to actually make it work that is the hard part.

vinnyq
February 28th, 2005, 07:10 PM
I really have no idea.

I think most players won't participate because it wouldn't really affect the game world, and any rewards you can provide they can get just by grinding. And if the event is just about: go dig goo, go give raynes goo, get rewards from raynes, it would be a little boring.

Not sure how you can make something like this work without the help of the GMs (wink wink nudge nudge) to provide scripted event and/or unique rewards and/or relevancy.

basicart
February 28th, 2005, 07:32 PM
Just kill the Goo infected Bosses atleast ya can see these hehe

raynes
February 28th, 2005, 07:45 PM
I really have no idea.

I think most players won't participate because it wouldn't really affect the game world, and any rewards you can provide they can get just by grinding. And if the event is just about: go dig goo, go give raynes goo, get rewards from raynes, it would be a little boring.


I understand what you are saying. But aren't all player events things that don't effect the game world and rewards can be received by grinding? And you couldn't give me the goo, it's mission item.

Basically I was trying to come up with something like this:
http://ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11657&page=1&pp=10
but with more interaction. Of course maybe as I suspect that the players on our server aren't interested in roleplay or lore related events.


BTW I do have one item that can't be attained through grinding. It's a very nice axe from the last big event. :)

oldmess
February 28th, 2005, 08:53 PM
I'd like to organize a goo harvesting event. I'm looking for your thoughts, suggestion, and comment on how this can be setup.

I have a dumb question (well, it's not dumb to me, but may seem that way to more experienced players):

I'm a level 85 fighter playing mostly in Matis. Except for once while following a trek into Zorai, I've never even seen the goo, much less harvested any of it. Because the goo is so far from the main cities, is this something only high level players can participate in? How does one harvest goo? Just point at it with pick in hand or does one need a certain level of foraging? (see, I told you they were dumb questions.) My foraging is skill is sub-newbie (level 15).

If this is something lower level characters can do or can help in, I would participate even if the rewards were simply acknowledgement that we helped our beloved Atys. While I'm sure you and others would prefer more GM sponsored events, that doesn't mean we should reject attempts at player-created, role playing events.

My other question is whether your toon (the Karavan-hater that he is) will tolerate working alongside Karavan followers that want to help on something like this. My toon does not wish to be berated for his Karavan supporting ways while trying to help a Kami follower in common purpose. While the Karavan do not see the goo as being as big a problem as the Kami do, we both recognize that it is a problem. As far as I can tell (in my limited reading), we're just arguing about an issue of degree.

Of course, my toon is as ignorant as I am in the detailed lore of the planet and only knows what little he was taught as a young Tryker. He is willing to learn more as long it is presented in a positive way. Angry denunciations of Jena and/or the Karavan will lead him to 'port back to home to do something more enjoyable and leave you with your purple goo. :)

As far as rewards, if participants were to put in an entrance fee and the resulting pot distributed between the top collectors, that would seem fair. I think this should be more about the role-playing opportunity than the reward anyway.

varelse
February 28th, 2005, 10:03 PM
I'd like to organize a goo harvesting event. I'm looking for your thoughts, suggestion, and comment on how this can be setup.

I suppose you'd be able to see how much goo the participants were digging up, and at what quality, by watching those floating numbers as we dig. You could have some people "supervising" the work and offering praise and enouragement to the diggers.

If you were to also announce ahead of the event which missions require the digging up of goo, and have someone guide people to the npc's which give them, while also explaining in character what the goo is and why we have to dig it up, you'd be putting more of the lore in the game without forcing people to close out of the game and visit a web site to find it.

Since it's really difficult to offer a reward based on performance you can't judge (you can't see our mission logs or the goo we've collected) perhaps the contest could be centered more around rp. Have people make up a brief personal or historical reason for being there fighting the goo, and have a panel of judges rate our contributions.

As for rewards, if this contest is about cleaning up (harvesting) goo, why not have any material rewards be harvest-related. A full set of nice-looking focus armor and some jewelry to go with it, maybe, and a writeup here on the forums.

raynes
February 28th, 2005, 11:32 PM
I have a dumb question (well, it's not dumb to me, but may seem that way to more experienced players):

I'm a level 85 fighter playing mostly in Matis. Except for once while following a trek into Zorai, I've never even seen the goo, much less harvested any of it. Because the goo is so far from the main cities, is this something only high level players can participate in? How does one harvest goo? Just point at it with pick in hand or does one need a certain level of foraging? (see, I told you they were dumb questions.) My foraging is skill is sub-newbie (level 15).

If this is something lower level characters can do or can help in, I would participate even if the rewards were simply acknowledgement that we helped our beloved Atys. While I'm sure you and others would prefer more GM sponsored events, that doesn't mean we should reject attempts at player-created, role playing events.

My other question is whether your toon (the Karavan-hater that he is) will tolerate working alongside Karavan followers that want to help on something like this. My toon does not wish to be berated for his Karavan supporting ways while trying to help a Kami follower in common purpose. While the Karavan do not see the goo as being as big a problem as the Kami do, we both recognize that it is a problem. As far as I can tell (in my limited reading), we're just arguing about an issue of degree.

Of course, my toon is as ignorant as I am in the detailed lore of the planet and only knows what little he was taught as a young Tryker. He is willing to learn more as long it is presented in a positive way. Angry denunciations of Jena and/or the Karavan will lead him to 'port back to home to do something more enjoyable and leave you with your purple goo. :)

As far as rewards, if participants were to put in an entrance fee and the resulting pot distributed between the top collectors, that would seem fair. I think this should be more about the role-playing opportunity than the reward anyway.


1) About the goo
Goo is a mission mat that the Kami welcomers ask players to get for a task mission. The task missions are all given my the Kami welcomers located in or near each areas capital city (Pyr, Yrkanis, Fairhaven, and Zora). The tasks are low level tasks so the goo can be found in low level areas. To find it you do the same as any other mat, prospect then extract from the source.

2) Is my character going to tolerate working along side Karavan followers, Matis, and any others who I normally dislike?
Well my character does what the Kami ask of him. So if the Kami ask that he work beside the Karavan, that is what he would do. The following is a rough draft for the background for this event.

In the lives of most Homin there are two universal enemies, the Kitin and the Goo. Recently the Kitin have been more active that and that has caused most homins to forget that the goo needs to be taken care of. Goo specialists from each of the four races have reported to their leaders that over the past few month due to the lack of attention, the goo is once again on the rise. As a result the leaders of all four races and representives from the Kami and the Karavan met in person. During this meeting it was agreed that the only way to reduce the amount of goo would be to have all willing homins spend time collecting and destroying any goo traces they might find. As such it has been formally annouced that on (date and time) the leaders of each race, the Kami, and the Karavan request that any available homin spend time collecting any goo traces they might find.

Kami Lord (as relayed by a Kami Adapt):
Beloved Kami friends. The cancer of Atys is at an all time high. While our dislike for the Karavan and those who support them is strong, our purpose is to protect Atys. This is why on (date and time) you must work along side those who you normally would not. Do not turn your backs to them, do not trust them, but work along side them for the sake of Atys!

Karavan Commander:
Followers of Jena! The Kitin problem has caused and even larger problem, the substance you call goo is once again on the rise. If not dealt with it will lessen the amount of resources available. As we must have a steady supply of recources to offer to Jena and to prepare for her return, the Goo must be dealt with. Followers there are times when one must put aside their differences to accomplish a goal. (Date and Time) we ask that you work along side those that worship the devil beings to help get the goo problem back under control. Our top priority is to prepare for the return of Jena. Only Jena will rid the planet of the wretched Kami. If working along side the beasts means a quicker return for her, then we must work along side them!

asaseth
February 28th, 2005, 11:40 PM
I'd be interested, but time is a problem. The goo missions are lvl dependent, so it is doubtfull if alot of people can get those. Have to look into it.

Noh

raynes
February 28th, 2005, 11:45 PM
I'd be interested, but time is a problem. The goo missions are lvl dependent, so it is doubtfull if alot of people can get those. Have to look into it.

Noh

The missions woulnd't be important for the event, just collecting the goo.