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Tidings
March 18th, 2005, 06:43 PM
Hail Homins!

I bring you tidings of a guild vs. guild event in the Matis Arena on Saturday 19th March at 8pm GMT.

Items required for the event:

Per guild :

Pistol ammo
1 pistol
4 sets of daggers


HOMINS, HEED MY WORDS!

Tidings
March 20th, 2005, 12:27 AM
THE RESULTS:


The Teams

The Samsara Team:
Kostika
Pinsao
Swee
Mioette
Rashan
Jyudas

The Outlaws Team:
Kaetemi
Death
Itsmagic
Roxana
Troxa
Groom

Angels Of Atys Team:
Wismerhill
Cattye
Loulou
Savior
Rein
Nookie

Evolution Team:
Sxarlet,
Cobralight,
Drakfot,
Crythos,
Reist
Loly

Stormdancers Team:
Yamcha
Ailish,
Tourasin,
Epcenter,
Seren
Aprak


Legions Of Atys Team:
Ulgar
Anders
Gilgameesh
Simone
Mellinda
Toramo

Divine Council of Pyr Team:
Lockheart
Shanu
Hitman
Hound
Amana
Final

The Scores:

Due to this being a trail event we are not giving an over-all winner:

Outlaws 5 - Samsara 6
Angels 7 - Outlaws 5
Legion 5 - DCP 6
Evolution 5 - Stormdancers 8

Thanks to all the teams who took part in this event

Please post your feedback and let us know if you would like us to organise a tournament.

kostika
March 20th, 2005, 12:30 AM
First, great job CSRs. I'm sure this wasn't easy to do. I have a few suggestions while everything is fresh in my head though.

1) Make clear what the event is going to be before the event. No one knew what this was ahead of time.

2) Post the rules on the forums. This will help sort out alot of confusion. That way people can refer back to them. Also people can ask questions ahead of time here if needed.

3) It was very hard to tell where you were supposed to be. Maybe if only the playing teams were on the field.

4) Many people found the rules to be needlessly complicated. The knifing on the bases seemed unneeded for example. Maybe simplifying the rules would help a little.

Still good job guys. I know running events isn't easy.

mikelaw
March 20th, 2005, 12:34 AM
Great event :P cheers to all csr :)

richaden
March 20th, 2005, 12:39 AM
4) Many people found the rules to be needlessly complicated. The knifing on the bases seemed unneeded for example. Maybe simplifying the rules would help a little.



On the point of knifing on the bases seeming unneeded, believe me, it was needed. If it hadn't been for outpost knifing, the Stormdancers team would have scored 9 instead of 8, as one of our team was killed by an outpost. Sure, most people didn't notice it, because most people were hopped-upto-the-eyeballs in Melee levels and armour, but this was an event for everyone, not just for high level people :)

It added a little more strategy to the game, and it also gave the outposts something to do instead of just standing there looking pretty ;)

Fantastic event CSR team! We had so much fun :) I'm going to be away from Ryzom for two weeks come monday, so glad I got to do something super fun before leaving :)

ozric
March 20th, 2005, 12:40 AM
Great idea for event, and I would certainly like to see this again. :)
I agree with the points Kostika made regarding rules etc. It was a bit too complicated to have the rules sprung on us at the start of the event.
Also, the original format was a knockout competition but i realise that this wasnt possible due to the time it was taking. However, with betting encouraged on the event, i dont agree with the "winner", who i assume to be Stormdancers ?

*edit* ah the post was edited, no overall winner i see :)

richaden
March 20th, 2005, 12:45 AM
Great idea for event, and I would certainly like to see this again. :)
I agree with the points Kostika made regarding rules etc. It was a bit too complicated to have the rules sprung on us at the start of the event.
Also, the original format was a knockout competition but i realise that this wasnt possible due to the time it was taking. However, with betting encouraged on the event, i dont agree with the "winner", who i assume to be Stormdancers ?

There was no overall winner ;) Well, anyone who had fun at the event is, in my opinion, a winner :)

ozric
March 20th, 2005, 12:46 AM
There was no overall winner ;) Well, anyone who had fun at the event is, in my opinion, a winner :)
Yes i noticed this, there was a crucial word "not" missing from the original announcement :)

kostika
March 20th, 2005, 12:47 AM
On the point of knifing on the bases seeming unneeded, believe me, it was needed. If it hadn't been for outpost knifing, the Stormdancers team would have scored 9 instead of 8, as one of our team was killed by an outpost. Sure, most people didn't notice it, because most people were hopped-upto-the-eyeballs in Melee levels and armour, but this was an event for everyone, not just for high level people :)


I personaly wasn't hopped up on melee lvls and armour. :D I barely have 1500HP and was only wearing med armour. In general, I think this piece of the rules might need to be looked at. Maybe add more to it, like allow 2 knives and maybe acc atk. Something like that.

kibsword
March 20th, 2005, 12:51 AM
Wish I could have been there guys, sounded like fun :D

richaden
March 20th, 2005, 12:53 AM
Yes i noticed this, there was a crucial word "not" missing from the original announcement :)

shhh... ;)

ozric
March 20th, 2005, 01:04 AM
shhh... ;)
Next time, the bookie gets fleeced (or lynched, havent quite decided yet) :D
He was only paying out on Stormdancers :(

mikelaw
March 20th, 2005, 01:18 AM
lol i payied out for AoA as they came 2nd from the points this way because no one made a bet on Stormdancers.

Was fair as i could make it.

:D

rabcaz
March 20th, 2005, 01:26 AM
Stormdancers team would have scored 9 instead of 8, as one of our team was killed by an outpost.

well. ehm sorry about that =), he was just standing in front of my knifes

sx4rlet
March 20th, 2005, 01:46 AM
well. ehm sorry about that =), he was just standing in front of my knifes

Yeah, and I wanted him to come to me, but drak killed him before that...

richaden
March 20th, 2005, 02:09 AM
heehee, bloodthirsty tryker!

mmatto
March 20th, 2005, 08:09 AM
I agree on all points Kostika raised. I am explaining them a bit and give some comments of my own.


1) Make clear what the event is going to be before the event. No one knew what this was ahead of time.

Information about event content before the event takes place reduces disappointment. Many ppl are simply not interested in baseball style knifing event. If we know beforehand what is coming, only players interested in such, will come and hopefully stay there as long as needed.


2) Post the rules on the forums. This will help sort out alot of confusion. That way people can refer back to them. Also people can ask questions ahead of time here if needed.

Rules were extremely complex. Remember that far simpler rules in Kami vs. Karavan pvp were not correctly understood / noticed by most. This time it was much harder (although guides tried to hard). I explained rules very long time for my team and after that most of them got basics of the game. We are not all native english speakers.


3) It was very hard to tell where you were supposed to be. Maybe if only the playing teams were on the field.


I couldn't attend long enough to be able comment on this one.


4) Many people found the rules to be needlessly complicated. The knifing on the bases seemed unneeded for example. Maybe simplifying the rules would help a little.

There was no way of killing / harming faster than regen rate ppl with 255 (or better, don't know the max) dodge with a knife and default attack stanza. Of course, this is just because we are such poor knife fighters.

I had constructed some nice max. adv dodge daggers with nice speed and damage, but I can't really see that it would have made any difference.

There might have been some low lvls that could have been killed but most were high lvls with equally high dodge.

Might be better if runners were forced to use parry with close combat skill. As i saw rules, it was game of max dodge for runners and duty.

And some of my points

5) Estimated event duration. I know this is hard but it is hard to get a team and have all to stay for unknown duration of time at late evening.

6) Don't make server crash :) I know this is hard too, but it helps to start event in time if server is not crashed just at event begin time.

7) If items are required state them clearly. Do we need pistol ammo and do we need 4 or 8 daggers? Of course, I had constructed all possibly required stuff with specifically optimized stats :)

norvic
March 20th, 2005, 10:30 AM
I think Kos has hit the nail on the head really, only things to add would be a diagram posted with rules before would have made things easier to work out instantly.
Only point i disagree on was the knifing by the outposts, although was no threat whatsoever to most players i feel it added abit of fun and stopped the outpost people just being marker poles.

jarko
March 20th, 2005, 11:06 AM
Great match,
Thx to AoA for explaining me the rules abount *mhm* 5 times? :p
Well we did a great job and Grz to CSR to make an event where the range skill canbe used! Wis had good fun i thnik :p

Also grz to Outlaws who really played a good game and even did a little real GvG with us after the event.

Greetings
Nookie

tomimaci
March 21st, 2005, 08:48 AM
Grats CSR, great work and good event! :D
With some more time your events will be perfect! Keep up the good work! And I wanna say grats to Sotrmdancers, who were worthy opponenents! Although next time we will kick your butts! :)

I agree in everything with Kostika, except the knifing, which was fun! :)