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sk8rss
December 8th, 2004, 05:41 PM
Fortunately I've changed my mind on this whole unity idea...I will, within the best of my ability, destroy anyone who attempts to interfere with the kami way of life.

aldrikoy
December 8th, 2004, 06:14 PM
I have an interest in starting a guild that will allow all races and will carry on the legacy of the "Force of Fraternity" mentioned at the event in pyr not too long ago. I need to know if anyone would be interested in joining this guild because I've had a lot of negative feedback from people I've mentioned it to. Thanks a bunch.

"I will consider it." (oops sorry, wrong universe.) ;)

gddss
December 8th, 2004, 07:31 PM
I have an interest in starting a guild that will allow all races and will carry on the legacy of the "Force of Fraternity" mentioned at the event in pyr not too long ago. I need to know if anyone would be interested in joining this guild because I've had a lot of negative feedback from people I've mentioned it to. Thanks a bunch.

Sorry I missed that. What was the legacy?

zzeii
December 8th, 2004, 07:41 PM
the transcripts of the pyr event and the subject that was discussed can be found here: http://wackyanne.tripod.com/ryzom/summit.htm

gddss
December 8th, 2004, 07:46 PM
the transcripts of the pyr event and the subject that was discussed can be found here: http://wackyanne.tripod.com/ryzom/summit.htm

Ha Ha nice Zz thanks.

sk8rss
December 13th, 2004, 07:40 AM
Well, thanks for your support, though it doesn't look like too many people are voting....

navra
December 13th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Well, thanks for your support, though it doesn't look like too many people are voting....

Perhaps if more people knew what it is you are talking about they might participate. Although the link given has some nice pictures, the text that goes with it is unreadable.

dazman76
December 13th, 2004, 04:30 PM
Perhaps if more people knew what it is you are talking about they might participate. Although the link given has some nice pictures, the text that goes with it is unreadable.
Hmm, are you using IE navra? When I open the images of the chat window, it scales them *down* to fit my IE window size. Hover your mouse over the image for a few seconds, and watch for an image appearing bottom-right (it's a square with arrows pointing outwards) - this button forces the image to it's original size, instead of the IE-scaled size. The text is perfectly readable :)

edthemad
December 18th, 2004, 01:01 PM
we all belong to "the benevolent brotherhood of thems what been shot at."-paraphrased old G.I. saying.

piman
December 29th, 2004, 08:30 AM
Maybe it's just because im still a noob but I dont see anything wrong with an all-races guild. I can't understand why people would vote "no" on this.

vguerin
December 29th, 2004, 04:45 PM
All race guilds are not a problem, the problem will become who they follow. As a follower of the Karavan, unless a Fyros or Zorai has commited to a life following the Karavan we see them as suspicious if not outright enemies.

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milfy
December 29th, 2004, 10:21 PM
Can't we all just get along!!!!

forever
December 29th, 2004, 11:45 PM
DoubleTap may have a point; will a guild like this work? Can a guild be neutral and not take sides with the Kami or Karavan? The story my make a guild pick sides.

Neva

vguerin
December 30th, 2004, 04:47 PM
DoubleTap may have a point; will a guild like this work? Can a guild be neutral and not take sides with the Kami or Karavan? The story my make a guild pick sides.

Neva
I am almost sure of it Neva, as several of us old timers have talked about. We can choose to be unhostile amongst each other for as long as possible, but it will make things more difficult when the line in the sand is drawn.

History has shown that in the epic battles you will have to choose which side to fight for, and your rewards are based on that. You can sit out quite awhile I assume and fall behind in any chance to be loyal to either faction, but also be untrustworthy to either of them.

The longer you wait to choose sides and make a stand, the longer your potential enemies growth remains unchecked. When all the folks that "claim" to be unbiased and do not align with either side decide to jump in, do you want them against you ? Fence riders typically jump to the side that is winning, that could be your enemies.

This is why non-aligned factions and those wanting unity are not far from those you should consider against you...

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piman
December 30th, 2004, 09:49 PM
Based on what was in the link zzeii gave us, it looks to me like the guild wouldnt be a "no-alignment" guild but a "helps both alignments" one. That is much more possible than not taking sides and it helps everyone instead of no one.

sk8rss
January 2nd, 2005, 09:25 AM
Based on what was in the link zzeii gave us, it looks to me like the guild wouldnt be a "no-alignment" guild but a "helps both alignments" one. That is much more possible than not taking sides and it helps everyone instead of no one.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. And as far as the story FORCING everyone into an alignment, maybe the story involving so much conflict is there for a challenge to the players, and this is one of the ways to over come. Ryzom was supposed to be built so that WE mold the story as it goes. Are you ready to mold YOUR Atys?

sk8rss
January 3rd, 2005, 07:29 AM
I am almost sure of it Neva, as several of us old timers have talked about. We can choose to be unhostile amongst each other for as long as possible, but it will make things more difficult when the line in the sand is drawn.

History has shown that in the epic battles you will have to choose which side to fight for, and your rewards are based on that. You can sit out quite awhile I assume and fall behind in any chance to be loyal to either faction, but also be untrustworthy to either of them.

The longer you wait to choose sides and make a stand, the longer your potential enemies growth remains unchecked. When all the folks that "claim" to be unbiased and do not align with either side decide to jump in, do you want them against you ? Fence riders typically jump to the side that is winning, that could be your enemies.

This is why non-aligned factions and those wanting unity are not far from those you should consider against you...



My apologies for not noticing this first, your not trusting the kami followers was a small turn off. Unfortunately, being zorai, I too am partially biased, but not when it comes to the well-being of our planet. The way the kami followers are taught is that we must respect this planet and its inhabitants, and protect them as such.

It may be that we're being fed propaganda from both sides. I assure you that this is no "fence rider" guild. We're here strictly for the preservation of Atys, we are not to interfere with the battles between the factions. Each individual guild member is allowed to defend their own faction, but as a guild, we should all agree that unifying against a common enemy, like the kitins, is of the greatest importance. We must put aside these petty differences, even if it's only while our crises continue.

My goal and belief is that the greatest fighters of our planet, regardless of color or creed, should be unified to form a stronger front. We all may have our different beliefs, but without this unified front, we've already lost our war with the invaders. It's been shown that we can pull together to fight the kitins, it's happened already in the previous invasion events.

However, with the events unfolding around us the way they are, the invasions will only grow stronger and we will continue to become more powerless against them, until we're unable to defend ourselves again, and this time there may be no running, there will be no refugees, there will be no homins. Our world will be destroyed and the kitins will be victorious. We cannot allow another loss of that magnitude.

If we do not pull together, we may be forced to run again, or worse, we may be forced to extinction. Neither of these would be an outcome I'd desire. Unite, and stand strong, stand a chance. Or keep yourselves seperated by your petty differences and risk the end of your existance.

I've made my choice, make yours.

sk8rss
January 31st, 2005, 09:43 PM
I've determined that the best way to protect our planet is without the Karavan. Consider this idea officially lost.